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October 6

Amendments on the title "Sa Sa International Holdings"

To whom it may concern:

I am the representative of Sa Sa International Holdings. As there are some updates on our company which unsynchronized with the description in the Wikipedia. Enclosed please find the latest information for your further handling.

About Sa Sa

Sa Sa, a leading beauty product retailing group in Asia, runs one-stop cosmetics specialty stores selling diverse quality products ranging from skincare, fragrance, make-up, hair care, body care products, as well as health and beauty supplements under more than 700 brands, including over 180 own brands and other exclusive international brands. Sa Sa operates around 230 retail stores in the Hong Kong and Macau SARs, Mainland China and Malaysia, as well as provides customers with convenient shopping experience across multiple online platforms.

The Group has been included in the Hang Seng Composite SmallCap Index, FTSE World Index Series and, MSCI Index Series. It has been a constituent member of Hang Seng Corporate Sustainability Benchmark Index since 2011.

Thankyou for your kind attention.

Best regards, Jackie — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.3.54.94 (talk) 02:24, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Sa Sa International Holdings --2606:A000:1126:28D:A1E6:61A0:871C:7F43 (talk) 02:38, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Please submit an edit request at the article's talk page and provide a reliable, independent source. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:10, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

And please note that there is no chance of promotional language such as you have posted above being accepted. Wikipedia does not permit promotion of any kind;. Wikipedia's article about you is not a place for you to tell the world about yourself: it should be a summary of what people who have no connection with your company have chosen to publish about your company. --ColinFine (talk) 11:29, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Image not showing properly

I tried to upload a new version of File:Super Mario Bros 35.png, specifically found here [1], but it is not showing up properly. How do I fix this? (Oinkers42) (talk) 02:34, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Seems fine to me, Oinkers42. Perhaps you just had to wait for a cached version of a page to be updated. --ColinFine (talk) 11:32, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Repinging (Oinkers42). --ColinFine (talk) 11:33, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Having two non-free images to illustrate an article

I'm currently working on the article Cheshire Crossing. This is a comic originally illustrated by one artist, then re-illustrated by another. The article talks a lot about how the original art was terrible, and how a new illustrator was brought in on an updated version.

Currently, the article has one non-free image, the cover of the new version. I want to also have, somewhere in the article, a cover from the original run, to allow a reader to see the art that is talked about so much. However, from what I can gather, cover art can only be used as a non-free image can only be used if it "will be shown as a primary means of visual identification at the top of the article dedicated to the work in question." I'm presuming there can't be two "primary means of visual identification". Does this mean I can only have one non-free cover? Could I make one image which combines the two? What are my options? HenryCrun15 (talk) 02:41, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

@HenryCrun15: My reading of WP:NFCC item 3a is that you can have more than one, if one is not enough to convey the needed info. RudolfRed (talk) 03:31, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @HenryCrun15: This is not the simple "use the cover once" case. There is another free-use rationale that applies here. You can use a copyrighted work under under the free use doctrine if the work itself is being discussed, and not merely being used to illustrate a publication as we do with the cover. Your problem will be navigating our minefield of restrictions to justify applying this doctrine. Please document your argument for using the work, both in in the file description and in the article's talk page. -Arch dude (talk) 03:41, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Question about comma usage

I'm uncertain about what to do in a sentence with a phrasing like "... and because of [event], [result] occurred." Could anyone please tell me if the comma should be there? Could anyone also please tell me if the tense of the verb, in this case "occurred", matters in regards to comma usage?--Thylacine24 (talk) 02:44, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

The comma can be there. I personally wouldn't use this phrasing for encyclopedic writing, but it is correct grammar. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:08, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

@Tenryuu: Okay, thanks. I won't, then. Could you please tell me if you think I should remove the comma in any sentences where it occurs in this fashion?--Thylacine24 (talk) 12:07, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

I'd reformat the sentences rather than just deciding if the comma should stay or not. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:56, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

I agree with Tenryuu. Note in particular that unless the sources specifically say that Y occured because of X, the statement "because of X, Y occurred" is original research. --ColinFine (talk) 11:36, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

@ColinFine: Thanks, but I'm not talking about the factuality behind such statements, just the grammar of them. (Sorry to phrase that sentence rudely.)--Thylacine24 (talk) 12:07, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

@Thylacine24: In my experience, unless you're rewriting your own work, or doing a substantial rewrite anyway, some (especially the original writer) might regard editing of optional commas (i.e., those without a bright-line reason to be or not) as annoying or even disruptive if done in volume. Editing commas required (or more rarely, not) by the MoS or standard grammar, or necessary to resolve ambiguity, are, of course, OK. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 01:00, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

@AlanM1: Could you please tell me if the MOS covers the type of comma usage I've brought up here? Skimming through that section, I don't think it does, though the examples involving Burke and Wills may. (I ignored the "serial comma" section, which I don't think has anything to do with what I'm talking about; sorry.)--Thylacine24 (talk) 01:14, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

@Thylacine24: That would be beyond the scope of the MoS (as well as my knowledge). Unless someone else wants to make a strong case one way or the other, it's up to you. Comma might have something useful. If you ask at WT:MOS, they'll probably tell you it's a grammar question, but might point you to the right place to discuss it, which I can't seem to find. Maybe ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Grammar if you must, though it's pretty quiet. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 01:40, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

@AlanM1: Thanks, I'll look into it.--Thylacine24 (talk) 01:59, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Facism

How is it you can approve an edit saying facism is alt right? It’s on all sides of the political spectrum. Nice work.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1014:B100:FB36:C55D:2F80:E569:64ED (talk) 03:07, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Please review the discussions at Talk:Fascism. -Arch dude (talk) 03:46, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

De-clutter talk pages

There was a consensus that allowed removing talk pages notices by bots such as [2] to de-clutter the talk page. Now I can't find that discussion. Link, please! Thanks (please also ping me). 4nn1l2 (talk) 06:14, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

4nn1l2, I don't know what discussion you are referring to, and if it's that you're looking for specifically, I'm afraid I won't be able to help you. WP:UP#CMT, as policy, states that

Policy does not prohibit users, whether registered or unregistered, from removing comments from their own talk pages, although archiving is preferred.

Strong emphasis in original. Bot notices would fall under "comments". —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:47, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Tenryuu, Thanks for your response. I'm sure there was a discussion and a following consensus which allowed removing bot-archival notices about dead links by cyberbot II and InternetArchiveBot but not in a systematic manner (i.e. not by another bot or in a large amount). When I de-clutterd Talk:Ranked-choice voting in the United States, I was acting per that consensus. Now I need that discussion, but can't find it. 4nn1l2 (talk) 07:00, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

I found it: Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_150#RfC:_Delete_IABot_talk_page_posts?. Please feel free to close this thread. 4nn1l2 (talk) 09:49, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Congrats on finding it! —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:37, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Edit something

In How Many time i edit something as external link — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shashank shrma (talk • contribs) 07:15, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

I find it hard to understand what you are saying. However, I note that (i) you have attempted to add a link to a page within corbettuttarakhand.blogspot.com, that (ii) this is a mere blog, and that (iii) the email address provided within the blog's "about" page is remarkably similar to your username for Wikipedia. Are you attempting to add links to your own blog? -- Hoary (talk) 08:51, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

wiki article on Makau W. Mutua - personal vendetta

I noticed that the article on Kenyan-American law professor Makau W. Mutua https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makau_W._Mutua has been incrementally changed over several months by an unregistered user who transformed it into a biased, one sided and slanderous article that does not meet BLP standards. Makau W. Mutua's professional and academic achievements are barely mentioned or removed. The references used are weak. The article is emphasizing law suits and grievances of faculty members at his university and relies heavily on "negatives". It looks like a personal vendetta piece. "Undoing" is impossible because there have been too many changes made. And I am rather new to Wikipedia and not very experienced as an editor. Could this page be put under "clean-up" or get a special notice box?

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whatadifference (talk • contribs) 07:36, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Whatadifference Articles are not for merely listing or emphasizing a person's accomplishments or positive aspects of their lives; they are for summarizing any and all independent reliable sources that choose to write about a person. That includes "bad" information about them. If there are specific points that you feel violate BLP, please bring them up on the article talk page. To increase the chances that other editors will see your comment, you may make it a formal edit request(click for instructions) though that is not required. 331dot (talk) 08:03, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

If there's no response (or an unsatisfactory response) at Talk:Makau W. Mutua, you can bring up the matter at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard. -- Hoary (talk) 08:46, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Links

Links added to a page are incorrect and irrelevant to the organisation — Preceding unsigned comment added by WorldNTI (talk • contribs) 11:23, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Am I right in thinking that you're writing about World Nuclear Transport Institute, WorldNTI? Materialscientist, for one, disagrees with you about that article. And have you read and digested what's been written on your user talk page? -- Hoary (talk) 12:26, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

birth certificate

how to get copy of birth certificate — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:19B:8580:15B0:F07D:FD27:5003:940A (talk) 13:29, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello, this is the desk for help in editing or using Wikipedia, we cannot assist with general enquiries. It would also probably differ between countries. Our reference desk may be able to help. Eagleash (talk) 13:39, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

i have send about my company but you didnt publish it

i have send about my company but you didnt publish it, please confirm my lecture about my company . thank you.

With best wises, Founder of SHRApp App Development Company - Sohrab Vahidli — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shrapp (talk • contribs) 13:53, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

• Hi, User:Schrapp. I can see you created an article about your company in your sandbox on 18 September 2020, here. It was deleted the next day by DESiegel as unambiguous advertising or promotion. Wikipedia is not for any kind of promotion, please see WP:NOTADVERTISING. Also, your text was in Turkish. This is the English Wikipedia. But the reason for the deletion was the promotional nature of the text, not the language. There is more information for you on your talkpage, here. PS, I can read your deleted text because I'm an admin; non-admins such as yourself can't read deleted pages. Bishonen | tålk 14:06, 6 October 2020 (UTC).

A "long comment" in French?

I can't figure out what is going on here. When I went to fix it the edit box says "This long comment was added to the page to prevent it from being listed on Special:Shortpages. It and the accompanying monitoring template were generated via Template:Long comment. Please do not remove the monitor template without removing the comment as well." so I thought I had best leave it to someone who knows what this is about.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:25, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Shantavira Looks like an IP address added that long text in French. I've reverted it so now it's just a link to the Wiktionary page. The long comment is just so that redirects don't appear on the short pages mointoring page. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:36, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Shantavira Joseph2302That long thing in French is pretty clearly some mischief (aka vandalism). Uporządnicki (talk) 14:39, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Здравствуйте прошу пересмотреть описание данной статьи https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer%27s_water_fuel_cell

Прочитав все работы Мейера и сравнив их с написанным в данной статье нашел некоторые аргументы и просто фразы которые были взяты не из работ Мейера а из мнения общественности.Поэтому прошу пересмотреть описание в данной статье либо убрать на некоторое время это пункт.P.S пытался править статью но мне отвечало что не аргументированно — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.139.246.188 (talk) 18:26, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

This is the English Wikipedia, and contributions (and questions) need to be in English. Perhaps you intended to edit the Russian Wikipedia? David Biddulph (talk) 19:07, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

No, this is about the English article Stanley Meyer's water fuel cell. The OP has twice edited it, once to replace a referenced paragraph with a shorter, unreferenced, paragraph in Russian; and after that was reverted, to replace the paragaph with the words "In proces...", presumably meaning they are intending to replace it again.

Здравствуйте. вам нужно discuss any changes to the article, in English on the talk page Talk:Stanley Meyer's water fuel cell, citing reliable published sources for any information you think should be added. You should also read Fringe theories to understand why articles about fringe theories need an especially high level of referencing from reliable sources. --ColinFine (talk) 20:56, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

PEN/Laura Pels Theater Award

Hello,

I'd like to report an error on the PEN/Laura Pels Theater Award page. My name is Laura Marks, and I received the award in 2014, but on the award's page the link goes to the wikipedia page for a different Laura Marks who is not a playwright. I do not have a Wikipedia page at present, but for reference, lauramarks.net is my website if you need verification.

Thank you,

162.83.150.238 (talk) 19:21, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, I have removed the incorrect link. DuncanHill (talk) 19:33, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Translation of a Wikipedia Article

Good afternoon,

I am wiring about this article on Wikipedia English about the 21st Century Icon Awards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:21st_Century_Icon_Awards

I would like to know if it is necessary to mention that this is meant to be a translation from the same article which already exists in Wikipedia Spanish. Under this name, https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premios_Icono_del_Siglo_XXI or it is not relevant to mention that this is a translation. I just want add the link from Wikipedia Spanish in the languages section but the system doesn't allow me. In that case, how can I let know the experienced editor who will decide whether it should publish or not in Wikipedia English that it has already the same article in Wikipedia Spanish? Can you help me with this please?

Thank you.--Enciclopedista100 (talk) 19:38, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

@Enciclopedista100, you may find WP:HOWTRANS useful. It gives instructions on how to attribute that the content is from another Wikipedia. Hope it helps :) Ed talk! 19:52, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

@Enciclopedista100: There are three interrelated issues. 1) You must formally attribute the Spanish article to comply with its CC-BY-SA license. Do this on the talk page and/or in one or more edit summaries. 2) The back-link to the Spanish article will occur when you (or someone) updates the Wikidata item for the article, which will point to the article in each language Wikipedia . 3) you cannot use the Spanish article as a reference, since Wikipedia is not a reliable source by our own definition. You will need to use the references that the Spanish article uses. It's OK if the references are in Spanish. -Arch dude (talk) 20:03, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

October 7

Afc Draft:Tyler Adkison review with Copyright violation

Due to lack of knowledge I had used content and reference of few websites in my draft Draft:Tyler Adkison. Post getting the comments from a reviewer. I have fixed the problem in my knowledge. Can you please guide me how can I remove the speedy deletion event against this article page.

Thanks you so much. Vsp.manu (talk) 05:46, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

David duke has endorsed biden so not far right also white supremacy is a far left thing not far right

David duke is far left and has endorsed biden Richard Spencer likes Democrat leaders lik Jackson and Wilson and is a progressive — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.75.205.220 (talk) 08:09, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

If this is with regards to an article, comments about an article's content should be made on its associated talk page. 331dot (talk) 09:02, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Amit Gefen page

Hi, my name is Orel and part of my job at Amit's lab is to write his Wikipedia page. those who tried before me were not able to upload it for many reasons that seems to be fixed. my question is, how can I make sure that the page will get approval now? I'm afraid that the page will get blocked if I will try too many times. Can someone review the page and be specific on what i need to change? I am comparing to other pages and trying to make it look pretty much the same, but it is diffecult to do when you were decline too many times.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ofir2390 (talk • contribs)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Amit_Gefen&action=edit&section=1

@Ofir2390: Hello Orel, and welcome to the Help desk. First of all, thank you for being open about your relationship. As for Draft:Amit Gefen, I have a few suggestions. First, please have a look at WP:REFNAME about named references. It allows you to use the same reference on multiple places. Secondly, the [[Draft:Amit_Gefen#Book_participation[6]|Book participation]] section is overflowing (its already more than half the page's length). Please reduce that. Interested readers can still follow the link there. Thirdly, the entire 'Biography section does not have inline citations. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 10:35, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Further to the reply from Victor Schmidt mobil, you need to read the advice about conflict of interest and make the mandatory declaration of paid editing. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:33, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Consider also that it's not "his" WP-page, see Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:30, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

@Ofir2390: Editors in good standing here are volunteers. You are trying to create this page by instruction of your employer and are thus a paid editor. I see no reason for a volunteer to help you to achieve paid or career objectives. As a paid editor you are deemed to be 100% compeent to write your own articles, but must not move them to main space, nor edit them there. You are required to use WP:AFC. Each review has gven you sufficient advice Fiddle Faddle 12:57, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Page incomplete information

I have to remove to my old organization's page because of incomplete information and want to make a new one with proper and complete information. The page name (Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_Hospitals) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.209.80.130 (talk) 09:54, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

First, you will need to review and comply with the conflict of interest and paid editing policies. If there is incorrect information in the article about your organization, please make a formal edit request(click for instructions) on the article talk page, Talk:Indus Hospitals, detailing the exact changes you feel are needed. Please understand that Wikipedia articles primarily summarize what independent reliable sources say about an organization, not what it wants to say about itself. Though we strive to be accurate, the article about your organization is not meant as a source for up to the minute current information. 331dot (talk) 09:59, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

The existing article belongs to Wikipedia and not to you or the hospital organization, so you do not have the authority to remove it or any part of it. Any Wikipedia editor (about 100,000 of us in the last 30 days) is free to make properly-cited changes to the article, EXCEPT for editors such as yourself who have a conflict of interest and who therefore must request edits instead. -Arch dude (talk) 15:44, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Questions about the entry European Energy Exchange

 Courtesy link: European Energy Exchange

Dear Wikipedia Help Desk,

I'm writing you regarding the entry for: European Energy Exchange on Wikipedia.

There is a note that says the article might be written like an advertisement. I browsed through the text in order to identify this passage however, I could not find anything that sounds promotional.

As I always strive to improve my writing skills and would like to understand Wikipedia better, I would like to ask you if you could help me further identifying the promotional hints?

Thank you very much for you help.

Best regards, Ursula — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ursula Goetze (talk • contribs) 13:47, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

@Ursula Goetze: This passage makes me want to read it as ad copy:

On 2 September 2014, the European Energy Exchange (EEX) launched its new transparency site. At www.eex-transparency.com, visitors can gain access to comprehensive fundamental data and relevant information for wholesale energy trading. The website is a further development of the existing platform "Transparency in Energy Market" and contains information about capacity, utilization and availability of facilities for the production of electricity as well as new information on the storage of electricity and natural gas consumption.

Second sentence in particular. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:54, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

@Ursula Goetze: Also note "secure, liquid and transparent markets" in the lede of the article. These may be correct technical terms in the context of your industry, but they look like WP:PEACOCK terms to a general reader. Perhaps use a more general NPOV like "services", and then define these services for the general reader later in the article. -Arch dude (talk) 16:44, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

@Ursula Goetze: based on the edit history of that article, it appears that you may be a paid editor (e.g., an employee of the company). Please read and comply with WP:PAID, which is mandatory under the terms of use of this site. If you are not paid, you may still fall nuder the WP:COI guidelines. In either case you should cease directly editing the article, and you should instead suggest changes via the {{edit request}} mechanism. -Arch dude (talk) 16:51, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

How to Create Company Wikipedia Page?

Hello,

I'm going through the all the information available and am curious if there are any specific instructions with regards to creating a COMPANY Wikipedia page. Are there any restrictions, guidelines, etc?

Please advise - thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:648:8101:B3F0:4D2C:F4BB:1A1B:E72D (talk) 15:22, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

You don't, because you are a paid editor with a conflict of interest. See WP:PAID and WP:COI. Your company should have an article here at Wikipedia if and only if it is notable by our definition: see WP:NCORP. This is easy to mess up: see WP:CSMN. If, after carefully reviewing these, you feel sure your company really is notable, then create an account with a personal (not corporate) username WP:USERNAME, declare your paid status WP:PAID, identify about three rock-solid references WP:CSMN, and proceed to WP:YFA to build a draft article. Your draft will be reviewed, with a special attention to notability. If those references are not adequate, your efforts will be wasted and you will be frustrated, and your only recourse will be to make your company more notable in the real world: see WP:AMOUNT. Please come back here for specific help if needed. -Arch dude (talk) 15:36, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

I would add to the good explanation above that if and when the article(not just a "page") is accepted, you would no longer be able to edit it directly; you would need to make edit requests. Wikipedia is only interested in what others say about a company, not what it wants to say about itself. 331dot (talk) 15:39, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

A barn for you!

Greetings, keepers of the eternal flame!

I don't do barnstars, but here's a couple of pics of a tithe barn near where I used to live, signifying my ongoing gratitude for the mostly thankless task to which you apply yourselves. So, massive shout out to all the WP volunteers who contribute to this page. Although patrolling the help desk must often seem repetitive and mundane, the quality of the answers when I have been searching for some deep-down recondite piece of info from the bowels of WP have been overwhelmingly concise, speedy and helpful. Nice one, all. MinorProphet (talk) 15:26, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

@MinorProphet: As one of those who labor here in sector 7G, I personally appreciate your taking the time to post this. Cheers! —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 00:20, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Getting my business its own wiki page

Hello,

I am wondering how i can get my start up company its own wiki page so that when people seahc it they can find information about it on here? Please let me know

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hearnedorothy (talk • contribs) 16:57, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Hearnedorothy First, you must review the conflict of interest policy, as well as paid editing for information on formal disclosures you may be required to make. Wikipedia is not a place for businesses to tell the world about themselves and/or aid search results for them. This is an encyclopedia that has articles, not mere "pages". Those articles must summarize what independent reliable sources] with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about(in this case) a business, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable business. "Significant coverage" does not include press releases, the company website, staff interviews, announcement of routine business transactions like the raising of capital or opening of locations, or other primary sources.

Your use of the term "startup" strongly suggests that your business does not yet meet the notability criteria; new businesses rarely do. A business must generally already be established to merit a Wikipedia article. An article might sound great for your business, but it is actually not necessarily desirable. There are good reasons to not want one. 331dot (talk) 17:04, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Correcting the title of an article

Is it possible for me to correct the title of this article? Llanstephan is misspelt. (The 'edit source' option does not appear to enable this.)

Horatius At The Bridge (talk) 18:43, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

@Horatius At The Bridge:The pagename is changed by 'moving' the page. This is enabled via the 'more' tab at the top of the page. As your account is WP:AUTOCONFIRMED this should be available to you. Note that articles use whatever is the commonname; please check whether this has been discussed before and if not, propose the change at the article talk page to find consensus. See WP:MOVE for more information. Please note that changing the file name in the markup means that the image will not display as it it will then link to a file that does not exist. The image file would have to be moved also. Eagleash (talk) 19:01, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

I'm obliged Eagleash and will follow your advice Horatius At The Bridge (talk) 19:36, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

First ever edit ditched by someone called Serols

....because it was unhelpful

Why would folk not want to know the meaning in English of a Gaelic Hill name

Perhaps you could ask Serols to elaborate?

Thanks

Gav — Preceding unsigned comment added by GavfaeDundee (talk • contribs) 18:52, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

@GavfaeDundee: I suspect this was reverted as Serols considered it misplaced at the top of the infobox. The name there would typically match the article title. If the translation was placed in the lead after the boldname say, in brackets, 'English, XXXXX', I think that would probably be acceptable. The editor concerned is one of Wikipedia's experienced and prolific disruption fighters and will often use automated tools fo find problems. This *can* lead to mis-identification and the tools are not really for use when it comes to good faith edits. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 19:14, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes your edit was OK, but asking User:Serols to elaborate is going to be up to you.

It was OK, but it wasn't faultless, because you didn't provide a reference, and also because it would probably better to put it in the body of the text like this: "Aonach Shasuinn (English: Hill of the Saxon; 888 m) is..."

According the key rule WP:BRD, the usual sequence is supposed to be:

1) You make your edit, as you did, and as is right and proper.

2) Another editor (User:Serols in this case) reverts it, as is their right.

3) You accept the reversion for the time being and open up a thread on the article's talk page giving your reasons for your edit and asking for discussion.

4) If and when there's general agreement that your original edit was OK, you put it back; if not, then not.

User:Serols ought to have given an edit summary explaining why he reverted your edit, but he didn't, and it's not strictly required. Your next step is then is the article talk page.

If no one else engages, which could happen as its a rather obscure article -- if neither User:Serols nor anyone else provides a reason that your edit shouldn't stand -- then after a reasonable time (10 days maybe?) well then User:Serols has had her chance, and you're justified in re-adding your edit. You should note in the talk page thread "no objection having been offered, I'm restoring the edit" or something.

Keep in mind that if you should provide a reference, and if you don't the material will probably be tagged for deletion and eventually deleted anyway, though.

So, it's off to the article talk page for you next. Herostratus (talk) 19:40, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello Herostratus, thank you for your explanation. GavfaeDundee got information from me, that's why he asked here. Thanks --Serols (talk) 11:20, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

talk, another possibility would have been to contact me on my talk page, I would have explained everything to you - unsourced and wrong place. Please excuse that I scared you so, I deleted the warning. Regards --Serols (talk) 11:20, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Please can somebody reinstate RYAN SWAIN (Presenter) wiki

A very rude editor has took it upon himself to delete majority of Ryan Swain’s page. There has been RS made in citations and everyone of them has been taken down. His photograph and info box also taken down when there is no need. Please could some of you look at this and try and amend the page and reinstate it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Swain_(presenter) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.150.170.33 (talk) 19:53, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

You can join the discussion at Talk:Ryan Swain (presenter). WP:BLP may be of help to you. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:09, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

2020-21 NBA season by team

What Just one team there need's to be more now. 68.102.42.216 (talk) 20:40, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

You can be WP:BOLD and add what is missing, citing reliable sources. Or you can start a discussion on the article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 21:05, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

How to add a company to the list?

How does one add Richards Building Supply onto this list?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Building_materials_companies_of_the_United_States

Richards Building Supply has been around since 1978 and has over 60 locations and growing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:249:F00:1511:9C01:21A0:9104:3A86 (talk) 20:50, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

That is a category, which groups together like articles, not a list. If the company meets the Wikipedia definition of a notable company, and receives significant coverage in independent reliable sources, it would merit an article that summarizes those sources. Be advised that successfully creating a new article is the absolute hardest task to perform on Wikipedia- but if you wish to try, please read Your first article and go to Articles for creation. 331dot (talk) 20:54, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

copyright issue from copy pasting

 Courtesy link: Dwight Morrow High School

The article [3] was about Dwight Morrow. It was copy pasted to Academies at Englewood and copy pasted back to create Dwight Morrow. This has to be fixed which Wikipedia administrators say to do [4] or else there will be copyright issues. Even the people talking in that Talk:Academies at Englewood page are talking about Dwight Morrow. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.66.16.106 (talk) 21:21, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Auto-hidden title?

I know that pages like Wikipedia:New user landing page have a hidden title because of the template {{hidden title}}. I also know that the Main Page has a hidden title, but automatically hidden titles? I don't know if this is a bug or if we need to write a phab ticket, but the word "Main Page" (specifically with a capital M and a capital P) followed by any number of everyday symbols or punctuation will hide the title. See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page%24 for an example of the title "Main Page$". Also, the title "Main Page." (followed by a period) at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page.&redirect=no also has a hidden title. It seems like the title is automatically hidden for whatever unknown reason. Is this a problem with MediaWiki, or is it just a bug or something? Gioguch (talk) 23:21, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

@Gioguch: I investigated, it seems to be a problem of MediaWiki and the way how the title is hidden. Explanation: Whenever you load a page, mediaWiki will attach a CSS class to the <body>-Element that takes the form "page-normalised Page Name". Because Special Characters are not allowed in CSS classes, MediaWiki Will remove them and replace spaces with underscores. Therefore, both the class for Main Page and Main Page. will end up page-Main_Page the logic which hides the title is contained within MediaWiki:Common.css and is basically the following: Whenever you see a Element with the class ".page-MainPage", hide child elements with the id #firstHeading (which is the page title). Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 06:05, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

@Victor Schmidt mobil: Ok, but when you go to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page%24&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobile, which is the mobile view version for "Main Page$", it doesn't hide the title nor show "Welcome, (your username)!" It actually shows the title. But how come the CSS class you were talking about only works for desktop view, not for mobile view? Or is it another bug? Gioguch (talk) 15:26, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

@Gioguch:} all the CSS classes and HTML ids are automatically added by MediaWiki (The software behind Wikipedia) when rendering the page for you. That the page title is shown on Mobile is simply caused because the mobile title element doesnt have the id #firstHeading, so the CSS rule that hides them on desktop simply doesnt apply there. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 07:47, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

October 8

Ozzy wiesblatt

Ozzy Wiesblatt was born in Vancouver British Columbia not Calgary, Alberta. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:7BBD:B200:F454:FEAB:2A29:8D4A (talk) 01:19, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Please discuss this on the talk page of Ozzy Wiesblatt. Please provide a reference to a published reliable source WP:RS. -Arch dude (talk) 02:16, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

изменение названия

Добрый день! Мне необходимо поменять название статьи, университет теперь на английском называется иначе. Старое название Saratov State Technical University. Новое название Yuri Gagarin State Technical University Of Saratov. Как мне изменить название? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Анастасия Печилина (talk • contribs) 05:26, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

@Анастасия Печилина - Это английская Википедия. Вы уверены, что не ищете русскую Википедию? Beaneater (talk) 05:29, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia gift

I have NOT authorised wikipedia gifting! Therefore kindly STOP and REFUND me my monies paid ASAP and confirm back to me

Thank you

Mrs Mary Bithell ~ age 75+ widow — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:4C8:492:3540:1:1:6E3:A337 (talk) 07:45, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

I know of no program called "Wikipedia Gifting". You are probably the victim of a scam. Since it is a very bad idea to share your contact details on an open forum like this one, you may choose to pursue this with e-mail with the Wikimedia Foundation (the organization that runs the Wikipedia system), but I fear that they will not have any information about the scammers. Try an e-mail to info@wikimedia.org to ask who to contact, but do not provide any financial info such as credit card or bank account numbers until you are sure you are in contact with the correct people. -Arch dude (talk) 08:05, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

(ec)I'm not sure what you are referencing by a "Wikipedia gift". Did you perhaps accidentally authorize a recurring donation to the Wikimedia Foundation, the organization that operates Wikipedia? If you have never donated to the Foundation, you will need to contact your financial institution and possibly your local authorities for assistance. 331dot (talk) 08:06, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Title of actor credited under different names

Scenario: Actor has been going by a certain name for a while, most of the links to the page are under that name, has a Google knowledge panel, etc. Recently/currently, they have started going by a stage name. Would it be right to have the page be titled the current/recent name they go by, or the name they have mostly been credited as up until now?

Page in question: Odessa A'zion (stage name) / Odessa Adlon (real name)

@Starklinson: Generally we go by WP:COMMONNAME, so if she had just recently switched, most of the reliable sources would still refer to her by her birthname which we would leave as the title (her stage name can be added to the body of the article, though). It could change as sources gradually use her stage name more. (Please remember to sign your messages with four tildes, like this: ~~~~) —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:53, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

first things to do in wikipedia when uploading

wanted to ask what would be the first things to do or process to go to when uploading a file in wikipedia? Yogibur (talk) 10:05, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

@Yogibur: Generally, the first thing you should do is find out who owns the copyright (if it isn't you) and either way, under which license you will license it (for your own files, not files downloaded from the internet) or under which license they are (for files where you are not the copyright holder). I also recommend that new users use the file upload wizard at least until you get how things work. Victor Schmidt (talk) 11:26, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

@Victor Schmidt: I see...copyright is really what I'm concerned about, bc I might be violating something. But this one's helpful thank you. I'll look into the link u sent me. Yogibur (talk) 08:44, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

incorrect page that needs to be changed

Hi,

There's a page in wikipedia that is not correct https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3CS_(research)

I've tried to add the correct information but it was removed. It is not promotional. Both the title (3CS research) and content is wrong. The research is called Crop Science Centre. Is it possible to remove the current page? thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by CambPlants (talk • contribs) 10:59, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

CambPlants, Content like The centre will provide leadership in crop science, generating a dynamic research community whilst training a new generation of researchers in crop science or The Centre is designed to fast-track technologies to sustainably improve farmers’ yields worldwide is definitely promotional and not adhering to the neutral tone expected on Wikipedia. Your username also implies shared use since it represents the centre as a whole, which is not allowed under our username policy. Finally, it seems that you might be being paid for your contributions or have a different conflict of interest; in both cases, you need to disclose your affiliation with the subject. In case you are expected to edit the page as part of your job, you are required to do so by our terms of use. If you do have a conflict of interest of any kind, you should not be editing the page directly, but instead propose changes on the article's talk page, backed up by reliable sources. Thanks and best, — Blablubbs ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:13, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Article Approval

• Link: Draft:Ryan Delanuez

Hello On the 7th of October I created a draft Titled Ryan Delanuez, but for some reason I was not able to publish the article I created after I created it. the submit your article for review button was not available after I finished my draft even though I created the article. (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?preload=Template%3AAfc+preload%2Fdraft&editintro=Template%3AAfC+draft+editintro&title=Draft:Ryan_Delanuez&create=Create+new+article+draft#) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juwonbam (talk • contribs) 11:37, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

@Juwonbam: you can in theory submit drafts for review by placing {{subst:submit}} on it. When you copy it from here, please copy it as it appears when you view the page. Victor Schmidt (talk) 13:47, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Publishing first article issues

Hello, I wish to publish a page about our federation: Nigerian mixed martial arts. I have the sandbox finished and published but can't find the page when I search it in Wikipedia. I am from the technical department and it's my first time using Wikipedia. this is the link of the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Geniusgracious/sandbox — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geniusgracious (talk • contribs) 15:20, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

@Geniusgracious: first, make sure your organization is notable by our definition (see WP:NCORP) by finding a few really good references. This is easy to mess up: see WP:CSMN. Then, add those references to your draft, and add {{subst:submit}} to the top of the draft. this will provide a "submit" button. Read through WP:YFA before you hit that button, or you are likely to have your submission declined. BUT before you do any of that, read and comply with WP:PAID. -Arch dude (talk) 15:49, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Saving a sandbox

Hi I am working on a band page as my first article on wiki (not my own band). I went into the sandbox to get started since I thought of this as a draft. How can I safe the article so that I can return and continue my work?

kind Regards Andreas — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andreasblaabjerg (talk • contribs) 16:56, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

@Andreasblaabjerg: Click the big blue "Publish changes" button below the edit window. This button saves your current session. It is named "Publish" to remind you that everything you write here is publicly visible (though its visibility to external search engines is sometimes limited depending on exactly what type of page it is), and that you are agreeing to the terms of use, as mentioned in the text just above it. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 17:08, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Incorrect plural usage

The plural of ‘embolism’ is ‘emboli’. It astounds me that you do not know this. See under ‘air embolism’ and correct it please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.14.226.166 (talk) 19:24, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello, the best place to make this sort of comment is the article talk page; Talk:Air embolism. 331dot (talk) 19:35, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Webster gives "embolisms" – Thjarkur (talk) 19:57, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Further, emboli is the plural of embolus, embolisms is the plural of embolism. I would recommend looking at a dictionary. Hope this helped. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia ^talk 19:59, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

October 9

Donation requests

Hi there, I already donate on on a monthly basis to Wikipedia, however I am constantly HOUNDED by your site bots to donate further. Can you rectify this so as it doesnt continue? I feel like cancelling my subscribed donations and ceasing use of the site, and I dont want that. Regards MH — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:D401:3F00:F9B1:9E1E:C59B:E5DB (talk) 01:01, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

The "bots" have no way to know that the person sitting at the computer using a particular IP address at any given moment donates money. If you create an account and log in, you can disable those messages. 331dot (talk) 01:02, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Zoe Saldana Signature

Hi,

Reaching out in connection with Zoe Saldana's signature on her page. We are her attorneys and she has asked us to have her signature removed. I've nominated the file for deletion and have contributed to the poll on her page's "Talk." It seems we've reached a consensus and there isn't strong opposition to deletion of the file. How do we move forward from here?

Thanks! 38.107.113.2 (talk) 01:43, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

I went ahead and deleted the signature from the infobox based on the consensus on the talk page. I also added a comment to the discussion on on the file in Commons. -Arch dude (talk) 02:13, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Misinformation involving Marvel Cenamatic Universe

I was reviewing some information involving the First Marvel Movie.

Your wikipedia post says iron man (2008) was the first marvel movie but there is no mention of Blade Trinity (2004). To the best of my knowledge, Blade Trinity was the first Marvel movie.

While it is not officially part of the MCU phases, it should still be listed in the encyclopedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Cinematic_Universe

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blade:_Trinity

IP editor, please read the entire sentence: Produced by Marvel Studios and distributed by Paramount Pictures, it is the first film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Emphasis added. It never says it's the first Marvel movie ever. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:21, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Depending on your definition of "Marvel", there's Hulk and Spiderman films from the 70:s. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:06, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

My Wiki

Hello, I'm trying to make my wiki, and get it out of my sandbox. How do I go about doing this? I'm a Musician trying to distinguish myself from another John David. I will link the page here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johndavidmusic (talk • contribs) 05:23, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Well, ... @Johndavidmusic: I am not an admin, so I cant read deleted pages, but I get the sllight feeling that I need to Inform you about a few things. First, please be aware that the Term "Wiki" refers to certain open-editable Websites, including, but not limited to, The english Wikipedia, which is a particular Wiki. Second, please be aware that nobody "owns" a Wikipedia article. Third, since you attempted to write about yourself, please be aware that autobiographys are strongely discouraged and that there may be good reasons why one would rather not have a Wikipedia article. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:01, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

I take it that of the two living John Davids on Wikipedia the one you are trying to distinguish yourself from is the one referred to as "John David (musician)" who is from Wales. If there is something in that article that suggests he is you or vice versa (such as you wrote "Red Sky" ,) you should raise the confusion on the talk page to that article setting out the problem. If there is nothing in that article that causes any confusion (for instance if you are a classical violinist from Belfast concentrating on JS Bach) I do not think this is a Wikipedia problem.Spinney Hill (talk) 08:45, 9 October 2020 (UTC).

Orangemike has blocked Johndavidmusic for advertising himself and anyway having a promotional username. Whatever the editor's actual name and profession, "Johndavidmusic" seems innocuous to me (it's not a band or company name; it's not clear that he intends to edit an article about a John David other than himself, etc etc). Creating the draft of an article about oneself in one's own sandbox is usually not a good idea (and often a really bad one), but I don't think it merits a block, particularly if, as here, the draft had a lifespan of just sixty minutes and no promotional phrasing. Johndavidmusic seems to have a mistaken idea of what Wikipedia is, but it's one that's widespread and I see no reason not to assume good faith. I'd urge Orangemike to unblock him. (Normally I'd say this on Orangemike's talk page, but perhaps it's better to keep this together.) -- Hoary (talk) 09:49, 9 October 2020 (UTC)